.
Feedback

Trustees: Emergency Permit Should Change for Quicker Reconstruction

Southold Town Board members also recommend that Trustees be more proactive in parlaying the rules of the permitting game regarding rebuilding after the next storm.

It’s been over a month since Hurricane Sandy hit, and the Southold Town Trustees have pushed through nearly 100 permits to allow residents to fix structures damaged or destroyed by the mega storm.

But in recent days, permitting issues have come up for those with damaged bulkheads that were built in the early 1980s and were never properly permitted for the Southold Town Board of Trustees, an entity that did not have jurisdiction over Peconic Bay until 1992. And those residents with unpermitted structures have to go through a lengthy approval process from the federal to the town level — and final approval might be weeks away, creating anxiety as winter storm season approaches.

During a morning work session of the Southold Town Board on Tuesday, Southold Town Supervisor Scott Russell asked trustees Dave Bergen, Bob Ghosio and James King how the permitting process could move more quickly in the here and now.

“We understand that people need to go through the process, but how can we make this more expeditious for those who need to make repairs in this unique situation?” he said. “Many people don’t even understand that they have a non-permitted structure, and when they hear that phrase it sounds like they’ve done something wrong, but they haven’t.”

Russell suggested that the trustees shoot for scheduling two meetings in January for a chance a approve applications for people who could not get everything together in November — surveys, permits from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the state Department of Environmental Conservation — and to address more of these unpermitted cases as they come in. And they will be slower to come in as people realize what their situation is, Russell said.

“A big part of this is education and outreach so people understand what the issue is — how can we better address these circumstances?” the supervisor said.

Southold’s criteria for emergency applications under Chapter 275 currently reads as follows:

     • Structures built from 1991 to the present, with a valid Trustee permit, accompanied by photos/plans should submit an emergency application and will be allowed to rebuild in place up to current Code standards.

     • Structures built before 1991 with a valid Trustee permit, accompanied by photos/plans should submit an emergency application, will be reviewed by at least one Trustee, and will be allowed to rebuild in place, up to current Code standards.

     • Structures build before 1991 with no permit must go through the regular permit application process.

     • All non-protective structures that require a CEHA permit must go through the regular permit process under Chapter 11.

     • LWRP (Local Waterfront Revitalization Program) review is exempted on emergency actions that are “immediately necessary on a temporary basis.” LWRP review for other applications will be expedited.

For Trustee Bob Ghosio, Southold’s current definition of “emergency permit” needs to change.

“This comes up after every big storm — people want to rebuild what they had prior to the event, but right now, the emergency permit is really there just so they can put rocks up and other temporary measure for protection,” Ghosio said. “But they don’t want to waste the money on temporary fix — they want to address the issue now, fix it, and move on, which I totally understand.”

Councilman William Ruland agreed that if the Trustee’s process is as user friendly as possible then “you’re doing all you can do — but if it stands in the way of something logical, then the code needs to be changed,” he said.

Ruland added that being more proactive about communicating with and educating the public on what they need to do after a storm would also help — he mentioned the consistent radio advertisements that the Southampton Trustees used immediately after Hurricane Sandy.

“I wasn’t a big fan in that they were mostly telling people what they couldn’t do, but on the flipside, they’re there to help people do what they need to do,” Ruland said.

The Trustees agreed to schedule an extra meeting in January — possibly the first Wednesday of the month — if they find that their agenda is too full for their regular monthly meeting, normally held on the third Wednesday. But Trustee Dave Bergen said that he felt by the time of the regular meeting, most applications with true emergency situations should be in the pipeline.

"The challenge moving forward is having to work within current code, when everyone will want to put everything back the way it was — decks, platforms, beach cabanas," Bergen said. "I think that's causing a lot of anxiety out there, but that's why we have a public hearing process."

What do you think? Tell us in the comments.

BOB PALADIN December 6, 2012 at 02:00 pm
bring in the army corps of engineers to determine the root causes of the erosion and what can be done about it.. poor planning illegal structures cause more harm than good and only benefit a few at the cost of the coast line...
see the Montauk berm preservation and what one women did to save the dunes ... we need impartial arbiters

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from North Fork Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
1927 Steinway Model M
Localtucker June 18, 2013 at 02:30 pm
once it is moved, it needs to be tuned, no one is going to help you with the moving costs.
Bernie K June 18, 2013 at 08:27 am
And, now that we know how easy it is to thwart the law, we must wonder...how many potentialRead More terrorists are residing here, thanks to breaks in our security system? Maybe the Mexico/U.S. border shouldn't be our top priority.
Robert June 17, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Now lets go after all the landscapers , farmers & builders that hire Illegals. Time to put ourRead More foot down on this ongoing problem
Robert June 17, 2013 at 12:49 pm
They will probably be back to work tomorrow selling Slurpees!
north fork magazine MAY 2013 issue on left & my original illustration on right.
Rena Casey-Wilhelm June 15, 2013 at 09:32 am
even worse?...When I had the publisher of North Fork Magazine contact me regarding the blatantRead More violation, what were his comments?? To add further insult to injury, he said & I quote: "I thought I was doing Greenport a favor...all of the businesses there are suffering...this paper doesn't make any money...sure I have advertisers but they don't pay their invoices...maybe if the cover of the magazine brings business to Greenport, maybe those merchants will pay their bill.."
Rich from the East End June 16, 2013 at 08:02 am
Better yet, rather than pay mag's invoice. send $$$ to Artist.
Scotty June 16, 2013 at 08:41 pm
And he really still doesn't see that he's stealing from the artist to 'bring business to Greenport'?Read More The effrontery of his comment leaves me aghast. Of ALL people who should grasp the concept of plagiarism and copyright laws, it should be a newspaper editor/publisher! Cropping out her signature proves they knew full well that they were stealing her work. I'd suggest the artist contact a copyright attorney pronto. I'm always astonished when something like this occurs when a simple phone call to the artist might have been successful in allowing him to use her work WITH her signature intact instead of doing something so underhanded.
Pat Mundus June 14, 2013 at 08:51 am
I have a 16mm and great 1940s speakers for it. Hope your film holds up for viewing...thrilled to putRead More it to good use. Call my office 477-6993
Scotty June 16, 2013 at 08:31 pm
I've just tried to do a Google search for you and from what I've found you need to either check withRead More your local library to see if they have one they might lend you--OR--try Audio/Visual online companies. There are some which DO rent projectors for days or weekends. I have one but just checked with my husband and at the very least it needs a replacement bulb(which are fairly expensive)--hasn't been looked at in years so there's no way I could guarantee it would work. You've definitely given me an idea, though--I'll get mine in shape at some point and rent it to folks for a nominal sum. I'm sure there are many others who have old film they'd enjoy viewing for family reunions as would my own family. Good luck. If you don't succeed for next weekend, you have other options. At the very least you might be able to have the film transposed to a DVD and distributed to your family members although that's costly too, depending on how many copies you need. Just a thought, but you could add the old footage in with some taken AT the reunion as a nice follow-up gift for the attendees?
Localtucker June 11, 2013 at 06:22 pm
I think it adds character.
Eric Larson June 11, 2013 at 07:51 pm
a foto of the old jail in Greenport would have more character than a wooden sign but beauty is inRead More the eyes of the beholder.
Benja Schwartz June 11, 2013 at 09:02 pm
In this day of the dawning of digital photography Patch could advertise $10-$100 per photo and haveRead More a list of upcoming and current photo ops for moonlighters to access. The result could be a new dimension of online journalism.
Steve Bull June 12, 2013 at 09:22 am
I believe this photo is a poor example of pollution on Long Island. I would prefer to see and photoRead More of a million dollar home with a lush green lawn mowed to a bulkhead above the waters edge. I believe the excess fertilizers used to keep the invasive specie of the lawn grasses green along with the broad-leaf pesticides to keep the "weeds" controlled are a prime source of pollution to our local bays, estuaries and ocean front.
Christopher Casey June 13, 2013 at 01:14 pm
Thank you for your comment Steve, we have a big section of the land pollution chapter specificallyRead More about run-off pollution related to pesticides and other toxins. We really need more fundraising to help us, visit the fundraiser page here: http://igg.me/at/long-island-pollution/x/3272641 to donate and become a contributor to the film. Thank you for your support!