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Pilot: 'You Cannot Legislate Helicopter Traffic'

Southold pilot and Long Island air traffic expert explains why helicopters continue to fly en masse over the North Fork.

Southold Town and Suffolk County officials have for years now tried to combat what many North Fork residents say has become — some at fairly low altitudes — flying over the North Fork en route to South Fork heliports.

Despite repeated attempts at putting the pressure on federal representatives and the Federal Aviation Administration, the entity in charge of regulating flight plans, helicopter pilots still choose the northern route from Manhattan to the South Fork. And to residents like Connie Shapiro of Mattituck — these flight paths make absolutely no sense.

“We hear them every day on the weekends, and it seems like all day,” she said. “I don’t know why we have to get the brunt of the noise — they fly so close it makes a vibration in my house.”

Pilot and flight path expert a Southold resident, and Suffolk County Legis. Ed Romaine spoke to a group of people gathered this week at the about the reasons why pilots choose this seemingly nonsensical route — and why there is little town and county officials can do to change things. The meeting was hosted by SoutholdVOICE, a group of concerned local homeowners and business people.

“The solution is very simple — and you would think it would be more convenient for pilots since all the he said. “It’s just that JFK airspace is very hard to get through.”

Using a map of New York City and Nassau County controlled airspace, Fischetti explained that in order to get around JFK and Islip airport airspace, in 2007 pilots chose to start flying north over LaGuardia and continued over the North Shore, breaking over Shoreham to heliports at Gabreski and at Southampton airports and flying over Mattituck and Cutchogue to hit East Hampton.

“They wait until they fly over more populated areas past Calverton and all that traffic goes right over Cutchogue — it’s all voluntary and that’s what is happening,” he said.

Fischetti said that the Federal Aviation Administration has made it clear that they do not want to get involved in noise abatement.

“There are 4,500 airports in the country, large and small, and every single one of them has noise problems,” he said. “They do not want to get involved.”

Phone calls to the Federal Aviation Administration were not returned by press time. Fischetti added that though federal officials like Sen. Charles Schumer have tried, “you cannot legislate helicopter traffic and altitudes nor tell pilots where to fly.”

“A pilot has the ability to control his plane at his time and is responsible for the safety of his passengers,” he said. “Regulation is not an option.”

Leg. Romaine said that he would continue to pressure federal officials to implement a change in flight paths from Manhattan to the East End.

“This is a federal issue — the county can’t really do anything, and when we step in, it’s like firing a flare in the night just to get their attention,” he said. “But this is one of the busiest air spaces in the country and it’s better than sitting around saying I can’t do anything. We are waiting for the federal government to step up and do the right thing.”

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Robert Grotell August 5, 2011 at 01:22 pm
The North Shore Route was established in 2008 at the urging of Senator Schumer in an attempt to address helicopter noise complaints from the Floral Park and New Hyde Park areas in Nassau County and other communities located in the middle of Long Island. Following the LIRR mainline tracks to the Long Island Expressway was a commonly used east/west helicopter route. The Senator requested the FAA and the Eastern Region Helicopter Council work together to develop a new, voluntary route to reduce these inland overflights. The result of that effort is the FAA's North Shore Route located over Long Island Sound (for larger, twin-engine helicopters only) with a minimum suggested 2,500 foot altitude -- safety and weather permitting.
As ERHC's extensive noise complaint data collection and analysis clearly demonstrates, however, concentrating helicopter activity along any one route is not the answer. ERHC supports going back to a diversified route structure (as was used prior to 2008) with some activity on the North Shore, some over the center of the Island and some on the South Shore. That is the fair and equitable solution. Robert Grotell Special Advisor, Eastern Region Helicopter Council
Concerned August 5, 2011 at 05:00 pm
Mr Grotell,
If helicopter routes cannot be regulated, then just begin flying the diversified flight routes that you recommend. If you are sincere, as an industry, just do it ASAP. Thank you.
harold gordon August 5, 2011 at 06:50 pm
How is it that in the past WE didn't have this problem. Who and why was the route changed to over the North Fork. There must be a good reason,but lets face it..we now that the folks in the south fork got tired of the noise. NIMBY? The copters should be making noise in the backyards of those it services. Who says nothing can be done ANYTHING can be done if those that can will! and they know who they are and we will remember who they are come election time..Mssrs. Schumer and Bishop, It looks like people who spend $3500.00 on handbags and $1000.00 on shoes (NYT 8/4/11), really don't care about anyone but themselves. We're getting tired of eating cake.
the owl August 22, 2011 at 03:33 pm
Getting East Hampton Airport out of FAA control and bringing it back to local control can make a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Candidates running for EH TOWN Board are primary tagets this coming election. You are so right, the difference must be made at the voting booth---vote only for candidates who have a strong position on the issue and hold them accountable. A new group has formed a coalition and we are looking for new members at www.Quiet Skies Coalition.org
SadderBudweiser September 1, 2012 at 07:18 pm
Grot ell is just a paid apologist for the helicopter operators. No credibility when it comes to relief. Please: all affected visit the Quiet Skies Coalition web site for the truth.

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