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New Federal Program Could Mitigate Future Storm Damage in Southold

The Southold town board met with representatives of the National Disaster Recovery Framework this week.

A new federal program could be embraced by Southold Town that would prove proactive in mitigating disaster during future storms.

On Tuesday, representatives of the National Disaster Recovery Framework, a new program under the auspices of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, met with the Southold Town board at a work session to discuss the initiative.

NDRF pulls together federal agencies to work together in a collaborative effort, focusing not only recovery for disaster-impacted areas -- but on projects that can shore up infrastructure to prevent from future damage during storms still to come.

Southold Town Supervisor Scott Russell said he has been working with FEMA officials on a regular basis since the recovery efforts after Hurricane Irene.

"We have good contacts and healthy dialogue so they asked me if they could come before the town board to discuss this new plan," Russell said.

NDRF reps plan to go before other boards of elected officials on Long Island, as well.

Currently, FEMA funding exists in the form of direct reimbursement for costs associated with the damage caused by disasters such as Superstorm Sandy.

"This means that any man hours, costs of debris clean up and restoration of damaged assets, like roads or beaches, etc. are eligible for funding from FEMA," Russell said. "The standard that is used is to restore the public assets to 'pre-storm' standards," meant to restore damaged areas to their pre-storm state.

The new NDRF funding, Russell said, would provide funding as an investment in the future -- to reduce the likelihood that roads, beaches and other town assets would not be destroyed again during the next story.

"The whole idea is based on the premise that if FEMA helps us make investments now to protect assets from future damage, they would limit their costs and liabilities on having to pay the costs of restoration later," Russell said.

For example, the supervisor explained, Town Beach in Southold was washed out and eroded during a winter storm two years ago.

"Typically the reimbursement would be to restore the beach so that it looked just like it did before the storm. The problem is that when the next storm comes the same thing is going to happen. FEMA finds this approach to be costly and repetitive. That agency is right. How many times can they keep reimbursing for a beach that is prone to erosion every time a major storm hits?" he asked.

The idea of the new program would be to consider what engineering changes might be made so that erosion does not happen in the first place. Rock revetments and other measures are the types of "investments" you can make now to ensure future repetitive costs down the road are avoided, Russell said.

"The idea of this new program is to work with FEMA and other agencies to make our infrastructure less prone to damage in storm events. Make investments now and prevent long term recurring costs down the road," he said.

NDRF reps said federal agencies would come together and find funding to finance various programs in towns and villages.

Projects are considered with an eye toward keeping municipalities resilient and sustainable, according to NDRF.

After a visioning process with local planning officials, grant funding can be explored, they said.

Town emergency coordinator Lloyd Reisenberg said one project that might be explored would be new generators for town facilities and schools.

NDRF reps said they would like to hold an introductory community planning meeting for brainstorming purposes.

NDRF would be engaged at no cost to Southold Town.

Councilwoman Louisa Evans said the new program would save money down the line, with a reduction in the amount of emergency funds needed after a storm.

Russell said another issue that might be considered in Southold Town is the damage done to private homes during disasters.

Funding would come from both community bloc grants and mitigation monies.

The town board agreed to move forward and  have NDRF represenatives meet with town planners to see how the program might prevent a repetitive loss situation in the future.


Benja Schwartz February 16, 2013 at 01:38 AM
Rock reventments and other measures are the types of "investments" you can make now to ensure future repetitive costs down the road are avoided, Russell said. It is Rock revetments not "Rock reventments" Many shoreline hard structures cause more damage than they prevent. The goal of publicly funded studies and projects should be protecting the whole shoreline, not protecting only private property on the shoreline.
scott russell February 16, 2013 at 03:14 AM
Benja, of course you are right. The word is revetment. My mistake in a quickly written email response to the reporters questions. However, the whole point of the presentation the other day was to look at the shoreline in its entirety. This includes public and private assets. You do recognize that "Town Beach" is a public asset don't you? That is kinda how it got its name. That was but one example of the repetitive costs that FEMA is looking to reduce/eliminate with this new plan. It will include all levels of government and the communities( Homeowners, business owners,etc.), as well. Further, the plan is not only about the shoreline but of all of the communities infrastructure and its natural assets.
Lisa Finn (Editor) February 16, 2013 at 06:42 AM
Please forgive the type. Thanks for the input, Benja! And thank you for your response, Scott!
Benja Schwartz February 16, 2013 at 03:31 PM
When you separate man from nature and treat nature as an asset belonging to man, you are not respecting nature. When you understand that man is a part of nature it is possible for human actions to complement nature. I would like to see a study of the coast of Southold examining current and past structures and their impacts. I could tell of one bulkhead that was replaced at a different angle and caused rather than prevented sand being carried into the channel to the point that at low tide there is a sandbar above water in the middle of the channel. I could tell of ideas that have not been considered. For example, moving some of the glacial boulders in the water and on the shore to support existing shoreline protection and add to it. Slightly more controversial, and a bit off topic here is my proposal to replace the railroad tracks from Riverhead to Greenport with a multipurpose track/path/greenway. Small shuttle busses could share the ROW with zero emission vehicles, walkers and runners. The existing tracks could be recycled possible as material to build the new passageway. I mentioned the plan at a planning meeting in Mattituck where the railroad ROW would connect Love Lane with Mattituck Plaza. I was rudely dismissed. Some day the automobile and train will be limited and learn to coexist.
Jonathan Baker February 16, 2013 at 04:08 PM
Your proposal of a multi-purpose track/path/green-way is intriguing to me. I'm not sure, though, that I understand the benefits that would be gained with such a make-over of the LIRR ROW. Could you be more specific as to the goal(s) of such an endeavour? Thanks very much.
Benja Schwartz February 16, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Sitting and walking on the beach is fine. To appreciate the whole coast it is useful to travel it by slow boat. Does Southold Town still own a dock in Mattituck Inlet? Is anyone interested in starting a cruise line between Greenport and Mattituck?
Lisa Finn (Editor) February 16, 2013 at 04:33 PM
*typo
mike edelson February 16, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Benja, you have too much time on your hands. get your shovel ready.
Tom February 17, 2013 at 03:29 AM
Hey Benja, here is a post you made over on the ST website. You spelled a word wrong. Seeing as you took the liberty to tell Scott he mis-typed a word, I figured I would return the favor, just so we all know how it feels. By the way, "reventments" is a typo... "their" is just grammatical tomfoolery. Oh, and just for the record, you did it twice in one sentence. "Benja: If their is a lawsuit their must be specific allegation as to what was promised. PBMC proposed to name the building after Goodales, but Goodales want to dictate the specific wording of the name. Was that in the agreement?" http://riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com/2013/02/43494/goodales-sue-peconic-bay-med-center-over-er-naming-rights/#comment-800960621
joe insider February 17, 2013 at 03:55 AM
A couple of problems with your train tracks to trails idea there (or should it be "their) Mr. Lawyer. First is that the MTA (not the Town) owns the easements that host the tracks. The cost of removing said tracks is astronomical. Who will pay for that? Second, many of the historic easements require a reversion of ownership back to the original owners should the original purpose (train service) be discontinued and does not provide for a conversion to other uses. In these cases, the many farming families (and others) would retake full ownership and the ROW, as you inaccurately call it, would no longer exist. Of course you could renegotiate with the owners to establish an easement but I suspect you would pay a great deal more then the original costs of a century ago. Last,. other then Mattituck, Southold and Greenport, the train is located pretty far off the beaten path so there would be no inter-conectivity to the hamlet/business centers. While the idea of connecting Love Lane to the Mattituck Plaza, which is a mere few hundred feet away, may seem compelling to you, it would seem to be an expensive and pointless goal for others. A sidewalk could probably get the job done in far less time and for far less money.
Benja Schwartz February 17, 2013 at 03:48 PM
Tom your post is on the wrong website. Don't take it personal, but you are the expert on Tomfoolery!
Benja Schwartz February 17, 2013 at 04:01 PM
You can't always get what you want, But if you try sometimes, You just might find, You get what you need. I believe we need to change our transportation priorities. Long term plans require investments of design, construction and integration into existing infrastructure. Revision of the LIRR ROW would transform the North Fork.
Tom February 17, 2013 at 07:06 PM
Benja, Aren't you sure it is "You're post is on the wrong website?" Based on your posts, I'm not so sure...

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